Barry HarrisThe method
15.3

Music is like math; finding your own voice; the teacher’s job

Barry held that music, like math, has no end: nobody, not even Bird, has played it all. Learning to improvise is like learning to talk and ends in your own voice; the teacher shows, plays, and keeps the music and its audience alive.

In plain words

Music is math, Barry said, and math has no end. A writer in Down Beat once said he was tired of playing the major scale; Barry called him a fool, since everyone in the country could play the major scale and each would play something different. Nobody has played it all, not Chopin, not even Bird: hearing Coleman Hawkins on All the Things You Are brought Bird down a little for him. The masters could not tell us everything, so there is a whole lot left for you to play.

Music is like math0:371:121:473:00Believe: a talk to musicians27:4428:20Student performances and coaching25:5326:25Andrew Velez, Barry Harris: A Thousand Percent Music Man ¶13

Learning to improvise is like learning to talk. We crawl, say mama and daddy, learn words, go through school with the same words, and still each of us speaks differently, shaped by family and surroundings. So learn as much as you can and don’t fear that study makes everyone the same: everybody goes their own way. What troubled him was players who all sound alike. Hawkins, Ben Webster, Lockjaw Davis and Yusef Lateef each had a sound nobody could imitate; Barry wanted his own too.

Jazz theory, part 6: every major sixth is a minor seventh8:289:019:34Artists House Master Class Barry Harris - Student Interviews After Concert11:4812:2212:56Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York11:14

The teacher’s job, as Barry put it, is to work out how to make each student play: keep showing things, a million if need be, until the student plays phrases that have nothing to do with the teacher. That is how the music goes on. He sang licks for students to play back and played in front of them, because they have to see it and then feel it. As the eldest in the class, he said, he was the dumbest, teaching until someone showed him the right thing.

Music is like math3:344:10The last train to Monk: an interview29:33Accepting the Bruce Lundvall Visionary Award2:55Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle12:2913:06Passing It On20:17

He taught to keep jazz alive, and building a young audience was, he said, the main task: the average youngster knows nothing about jazz and is prejudiced against it unheard. Each musician must turn young people on, even in a noisy club. He kept his New York class for people who could not afford college; at the start he asked only enough for the rent (in one telling, also a couple of musicians), nothing for himself; a speaker at his funeral recalled he expected students to come even without money.

Passing It On3:023:35Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York14:0514:3815:12Interview on Italian television13:0213:35Piano Jazz with Marian McPartland15:51Barry Harris Funeral58:32Victor L. Schermer (interviewer); Barry Harris, Barry Harris: Iconic Jazz Pianist and Keeper of the Flame ¶37Barry Harris, Smithsonian Jazz Oral History Program ¶263

How he said to practise it

  • Learn as much as you can, then get into what you have learned and solve it yourself; study will not make you sound like everyone else.

    Jazz theory, part 6: every major sixth is a minor seventh9:01Believe: a talk to musicians29:29

  • Horn players: practise your vibrato. Barry thought it is connected with soul and is what tells you apart from the next player.

    Artists House Master Class Barry Harris - Student Interviews After Concert12:22Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York11:50

  • Take risks when you play: you have to start doing it and not be scared.

    Class of 19 October 2010: through the changes3:103:484:25

In Barry’s words

Each one plays from the moment he says it. Every other moment he teaches it is listed below.

Math is the boss. So music is the same, there is no end to music because music is math. There is no end.

Music is like math, Rome, 2010–19. A class in Rome, 2017 2:10 Watch on YouTube at 2:10

None of them played it all, nobody played it all. There’s a whole lot left for you to play.

Music is like math, Rome, 2010–19. After calling Bird, Bud and Dizzy great 3:00 Watch on YouTube at 3:00

I can show you a million things. And one day you’re going to say, oh, my Lord, I can play. And you’re going to play yourself. And it won’t have nothing to do with me.

Music is like math, Rome, 2010–19. Describing what a teacher does 3:39 Watch on YouTube at 3:39

The idea is to make somebody feel this feeling that I felt, and that is the secret to the whole thing.

The Spirit of Bebop, USA, 1999. Recalling the chill of hearing Bird with strings, in the documentary Spirit of Bebop 54:05 Watch on YouTube at 54:05

Where this comes from

Everything above is drawn from these. Open any one to check it.

Every moment he teaches it12 moments in 9 recordings

Each time opens the transcript there; the video plays when you are online.

Music is like math

Rome, 2010–19 — 5 min On YouTube

  1. 1:12

    Nobody has played everything, not even Bird; Hawkins on All the Things You Are brought Bird down a little.

    Watch on YouTube at 1:12

  2. 1:47

    Music is like math: no end, as math leads from one planet to the next.

    Watch on YouTube at 1:47

  3. 3:00

    None of the greats played it all; a whole lot is left for you to play.

    Watch on YouTube at 3:00

  4. 3:34

    The teacher shows a million things until you play phrases that have nothing to do with him.

    Watch on YouTube at 3:34

Believe: a talk to musicians

Almería, 2014 — 60 min On YouTube

  1. 28:20

    The Down Beat writer tired of the major scale; six notes already give 720 orderings; the doubled penny.

    Watch on YouTube at 28:20

Student performances and coaching

New York City, 2004 — 45 min On YouTube

  1. 25:53

    The masters didn’t tell us everything because they couldn’t: too much to tell; find out for yourself.

    Watch on YouTube at 25:53

Jazz theory, part 6: every major sixth is a minor seventh

New York City — 10 min On YouTube

  1. 8:28

    Learning to improvise is like learning to talk: same words, used differently by everyone.

    Watch on YouTube at 8:28

Artists House Master Class Barry Harris - Student Interviews After Concert

New York City, 2004 — 15 min On YouTube

  1. 11:48

    Today’s horn players all sound alike; practise your vibrato; he doesn’t want to sound like everybody else.

    Watch on YouTube at 11:48

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle

various, 1987–2019 — 24 min On YouTube

  1. 12:29

    He plays in front of his students: they have to see it, then feel it.

    Watch on YouTube at 12:29

Passing It On

New York City, 1984 — 22 min On YouTube

  1. 20:17

    The eldest in the class is the dumbest; he teaches so someone might show him the right thing.

    Watch on YouTube at 20:17

Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York

various, 1987–2019 — 44 min On YouTube

  1. 14:05

    Each musician must create an audience; go into the lion’s den, even a noisy club.

    Watch on YouTube at 14:05

The Spirit of Bebop

USA, 1999 — 56 min On YouTube

  1. 53:32

    The chill of hearing Bird with strings; the secret is to make somebody feel that.

    Watch on YouTube at 53:32

From the lessons4 lessons, 23 points

Notes taken from Barry’s classes, each tied to the moment it comes from.

Music is like math: nobody has played it all

  1. Idea

    Barry often recalled a writer who complained in Down Beat that he was tired of playing the major scale. Barry called that foolish: no single player has played all the ways of playing the major scale, and if everyone in the country played it, each would play something different.

    Believe: a talk to musicians27:4428:20Student performances and coaching26:09

  2. Idea

    To show why, he counts. Across the two and a half octaves most horns have, the possible orderings of notes grow fast: multiply 1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 and you already have 720. He compares it to a penny doubled every day for thirty days, which ends up worth more than a million dollars. Music is math, and math has no end.

    Believe: a talk to musicians27:4428:2028:54

  3. Idea

    Some students act as if Chopin and the other masters played everything there is. Barry disagrees: nobody has, not even Charlie Parker. He recalls that when Coleman Hawkins played All the Things You Are, Bird came down a little in his estimation, because he saw that no one plays it all. Since music, like math, has no end, the best piece has not yet been written. He still calls Bird, Bud and Dizzy great, but insists there is a whole lot left for you to play.

    Music is like math0:371:121:473:00

  4. Idea

    The masters who came before did not tell us everything, Barry says; they couldn’t, because there is too much to tell, and some things you have to find out for yourself. There is a lot in this music that hasn’t been played yet, like scientists who reached the moon and now want Mars and then other planets. What you need is to learn certain things and then get into them and solve the mysteries yourself.

    Student performances and coaching26:09Barry Harris Spanish TV22:29Believe: a talk to musicians29:29

Learning to improvise and finding your own voice

  1. Idea

    Barry recalled that as a teenager he loved jazz so much that, while others were out playing baseball and football, he ran home to sit at the piano.

    Interview on Italian television10:45

  2. Idea

    We learn to improvise the way we learn to speak: crawling, saying mama and daddy, learning words, going to school. We all graduate with the same words, yet each of us uses them differently, shaped by family and surroundings. Music is the same. Learn as much as you can and everyone will go their own way, so don’t worry that study will make everyone sound alike.

    Jazz theory, part 6: every major sixth is a minor seventh8:289:019:34

  3. Idea

    The great players had instantly recognisable sounds: Coleman Hawkins, Ben Webster, Lester Young, Lockjaw Davis, Yusef Lateef, Bird, Sonny Stitt. Barry finds that many players today sound alike, so half the time you can’t tell who is playing. He blames electronics, which make sounds indistinguishable, and horn players who use a straight tone.

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York11:14Artists House Master Class Barry Harris - Student Interviews After Concert11:4812:22

  4. Exercise

    If you play a horn, practise your vibrato. Barry links vibrato to soul and believes it is what made each of the masters distinct: your vibrato is what separates you from the next player. Pianists need a sound of their own too. Barry says he doesn’t want to sound like everybody else, and recalls the sound a great pianist he listened to drew from the piano (the name is unclear in the captions).

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York11:50Artists House Master Class Barry Harris - Student Interviews After Concert12:2212:56

  5. Idea

    In class Barry urged a student not to hold back out of fear. You have to take risks when you play. Don’t play the intro and then let everything drop; start doing it and don’t be scared.

    Class of 19 October 2010: through the changes3:103:484:25

  6. Idea

    A former student, speaking at Barry’s funeral, recalled that alongside hard work and practice he taught the importance of silence. You don’t always have to fill the spaces with notes; a pause or a space can be your greatest asset, whether you are playing or singing.

    Barry Harris Funeral1:07:39

  7. Idea

    For Barry the secret of the music is feeling. He describes going to hear Charlie Parker with strings and feeling a chill that started in his feet and went through his whole body, the most beautiful feeling he could imagine. The whole idea of playing is to make somebody else feel that. His aim was to make listeners feel the way Bird or Chopin made people feel.

    The Spirit of Bebop53:3254:05Interview on Italian television12:29

The teacher’s job

  1. Idea

    Barry liked to say that the dumbest person in a classroom is the teacher, because he has been in the class the longest. A teacher has to learn from his students. He taught, he said, so that someday someone might show him the right thing; then he would stop teaching and graduate from the class himself. Half joking, he added that a teacher should be good enough that by the end he tells himself he will never teach again.

    Master Class de Barry Harris en 20090:080:46Passing It On20:17

  2. Idea

    Barry makes a point of being able to do what he teaches: he can sing ideas and licks to students, have them play them, then go to the piano and play them himself, and he stresses he is not a piano teacher who can’t play. He had classical teachers who taught well but whom he never heard play; still, he considers it very important to play in front of students. They have to see it done and then feel it: hearing him play alone at the piano, without bass or drums, shows them how it is supposed to feel.

    Accepting the Bruce Lundvall Visionary Award2:55Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle12:2913:06

  3. Idea

    Barry described his job as working out how to make each student play. He keeps showing things, potentially a million of them, until one day the student realises they can play and starts making up phrases of their own that have nothing to do with him. That, he says, is how the music goes on.

    Music is like math3:344:10

  4. Idea

    At the end of one workshop Barry told the students they had to believe in him, or in somebody: he had shown them what a diminished scale really is and things they had never learned before. Believing, he added, is not about taking his word for it but about recognising that what he shows is right. He told the guitarists he expected them to become the best.

    Believe: a talk to musicians57:4258:1758:5159:26

  5. Idea

    At Barry’s funeral a pianist colleague summed him up. As a player, Barry built his improvisations as an unhurried, flowing story, never showing off for its own sake, with a deep grip on the beat. As a teacher, his way of setting out the bebop language went to the heart of what makes a melody melodic, joining lines and chords into one whole: melodies live inside chords and chords live inside melodies. To the end he stayed curious, often calling this colleague with a musical puzzle to work out, each at his own piano.

    Barry Harris Funeral46:2947:0547:44

Building an audience and giving jazz its place

  1. Idea

    Barry called building a young audience his main concern. The average youngster knows nothing about jazz, doesn’t care to, and is prejudiced against it without ever having heard it; jazz musicians aren’t even heard enough to be disliked. He joked that things are bad when your audience is as grey-haired as you are, so creating young listeners is the main task for jazz musicians.

    Barry Harris- Jazz Master, Educator, Saint0:295:53Passing It On3:02

  2. Idea

    Barry noted that his concerts, for example in Detroit, drew old folks, people he went to school with, and that this white-haired audience keeps shrinking as they die. Jazz gets little exposure; most people now say they don’t like it, and some have never even heard it played.

    Believe: a talk to musicians0:37NBC News profile at the Jazz Cultural Theatre2:21

  3. Idea

    Because young people will not hear jazz anywhere else, Barry said each jazz musician has to create an audience and turn young people on. That means playing where they are, even in a noisy club, rather than refusing. Most of the world is the lion’s den, so you go in: invited onto a big TV show or a rock-and-roll event, he would go and show them that rock is not the only music.

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York14:0515:1215:46

  4. Idea

    Barry argued that jazz should simply be recognised as the national music, the country’s cultural contribution to the world, without any drawn-out process. He found it strange that he had to go to Japan to discover he was a star, while young Americans know nothing about the music, and he wished jazz musicians could be heard on the soundtracks of big films.

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York16:2020:4331:2338:00

  5. Idea

    Barry said he was presenting songs this way to show that Americans can write beautiful music. He pointed to standards like April in Paris and Autumn in New York as beautiful music written by us and for us, and regretted the nonsense that goes on today.

    Artists House Master Class Barry Harris - Performance33:3834:13

  6. Idea

    Barry said he spent his life believing in jazz and travelling to make sure people knew it, partly because the US was starting to neglect it. One of his classes in Rome had students from 22 nations, and he drew similar turnouts in Verona, Madrid and elsewhere. He wished he could get that at home, since Americans should be the hippest people about this music.

    Accepting the Bruce Lundvall Visionary Award0:371:101:45

  7. Idea

    Asked why he came to New York after so many years in Detroit, Barry said you simply have to come to New York. Though he noted its problems, such as the homeless at the Port Authority, he hoped it could regain its status as the finishing school of the world. New York should set the trends rather than leave that to Hollywood or other cities; the young should set an example of how to act, and the old should show how to grow old gracefully instead of hiding their age in a society geared to youth.

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York39:0440:1340:4741:20

In writing7 notes

What his interviews, his students’ class notes and other teachers’ articles add.

How other teachers explain it1 video, 2 series episodes

Barry’s students, and their students, teaching it their way. A second opinion, not Barry.

  • Barry Harris Funeral

    Recalls him drilling melodies until they were known by heart, then improvising on them, and teaching the value of silence.

    1.9 h, transcript On YouTube

In the teaching series

Episodes on this idea in the long series by other teachers. Each name opens that whole series in order.

Where the accounts differ1 point
  • Barry called bebop the beginning and the end of music so far and said music had not really advanced since, yet he insisted that nobody, Bird included, had played it all and that the best has not been written. In the first he adds that what is left is to build on bebop.

    Passing It On0:45Music is like math2:233:00

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