Barry HarrisThe method

People Barry talks about

Johann Sebastian Bach

composer (classical)

German Baroque composer and organist whom Barry called probably the best jazz musician of his time, and whom he counted among the classical improvisers whose line he believed jazz continues.

mentions
25
recordings
17
Barry speaking
17

What Barry says

Barry says the music is classical, and the ones who played it well were Bach and his peers: they were jazz musicians, and Bach was probably the best jazz musician of his day.

Student performances and coaching22:25

Bach and the others did not tell us everything, Barry warns: there are things jazz musicians had to find out for themselves, because it is too much to be told. No one has played everything there is to play, even on the major scale.

Student performances and coaching26:0926:45

Bach, Chopin, Liszt and Beethoven all learned to improvise, so Barry sees jazz as the continuation of classical theory. Europe went wrong when it stopped teaching improvisation, a big blunder in his view, and improvisation started again in the United States.

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle2:21Interview on Italian television6:12The last train to Monk: an interview30:17Jazz theory, part 2: drop voicings0:000:34Believe: a talk to musicians14:22

If Bach were alive now, Barry says, he would have to be on a stage somewhere, just like Barry and other jazz musicians, playing his own music in a corner bar, since concert halls play only dead people’s music.

Student performances and coaching23:3724:15Barry Harris Trio - 2005-07-08, North Sea Jazz Festival, Netherlands42:40

On stage he defends playing the bebop masters: if concert halls can program Bach, Beethoven and Brahms, he sees no reason he cannot play Bird, Bud and Monk, and a jazz musician should prove himself on their songs rather than only on originals.

Barry Harris Trio - 2005-07-08, North Sea Jazz Festival, Netherlands35:38Barry Harris Live In Rennes40:2240:55

He tells of a call from David Freedman in London with Bach playing in the background; Barry asked to hear it again and heard I Got Rhythm in it. To him that showed Bach knew about it, and that jazz musicians are the classical ones (the old captions muddled the name as ‘Bo’ and ‘B’; the newer transcript has Bach).

Jazz theory, part 4: borrowing diminished notes1:081:42

He also says Bach, like Chopin, misled us by handing down just the major scale, which he thinks is wrong from the start.

Believe: a talk to musicians55:30

In his own words

See, our music is classical. The ones that played it good is Bach and them. You know, they’re jazz musicians, you know. Bach probably was, for his time, he was probably the best jazz musician.

Student performances and coaching, New York City, 2004. Artists House master class, on jazz as classical music 22:25 Watch on YouTube at 22:25

you might think that, you know, Bach and them told us everything. They didn’t tell us everything. There’s some things we had to find out for ourselves.

Student performances and coaching, New York City, 2004. Same class, urging students to find things out themselves 26:09 Watch on YouTube at 26:09

So Bach and them, if they were here now, they had to be on stage somewhere. Be just like me and the rest of us, jazz musicians.

Student performances and coaching, New York City, 2004. Same class, on where the classical masters would play today 24:15 Watch on YouTube at 24:15

Jazz is a continuation of Bach and Beethoven, and so on. If they were alive today, they would be jazz musicians.

Victor L. Schermer (interviewer); Barry Harris, Barry Harris: Iconic Jazz Pianist and Keeper of the Flame. Asked by Victor Schermer whether he plays the classical repertoire ¶33

Bach had gone to see this great organist, a great cat. And it really messed him up a little. Bach came back and he was doing stuff and the singers were having a fit.

Andrew Velez, Barry Harris: A Thousand Percent Music Man. Telling Andrew Velez how Bach ended up playing in a saloon ¶6

Every mention

25 moments in the recordings, 17 of them Barry speaking. Each says who is talking.

Student performances and coaching

New York City, 2004

  1. 22:25

    Barry

    Our music is classical; Bach and his peers were jazz musicians, Bach probably the best of his time.

    Watch on YouTube at 22:25

  2. 26:09

    Barry

    Bach and them did not tell us everything; some things jazz musicians had to find out themselves.

    Watch on YouTube at 26:09

  3. 24:15

    Barry

    If alive now, Bach and the rest would be on a stage somewhere, just like jazz musicians.

    Watch on YouTube at 24:15

  4. 23:37

    Barry

    Chopin, Bach and Beethoven would not be in today’s concert halls, which play dead people’s music.

    Watch on YouTube at 23:37

Jazz theory, part 4: borrowing diminished notes

New York City

  1. 1:08

    Barry

    Bach heard on a London friend’s phone sounded like I Got Rhythm, so Bach knew.

    Watch on YouTube at 1:08

Believe: a talk to musicians

Almería, 2014

  1. 55:30

    Barry

    Bach, like Chopin, misled us by handing down only the major scale.

    Watch on YouTube at 55:30

  2. 14:22

    Barry

    Europe gave us beautiful music from Bach (caption ‘B’) and Chopin, then stopped teaching improvisation.

    Watch on YouTube at 14:22

‘I am jazz’, set to animation

  1. 2:58

    Barry

    The same remark in another recording of the talk, with Bach captioned ‘Barkin’.

    Watch on YouTube at 2:58

Interview: Detroit, Bud Powell and the shuffle

various, 1987–2019

  1. 2:21

    Barry

    Jazz continues classical theory; Bach, Chopin and Beethoven had a way of learning to improvise.

    Watch on YouTube at 2:21

Interview on Italian television

various, 1981–2017

  1. 6:12

    Barry

    Chopin, Bach, Liszt and Beethoven all learned to improvise; jazz musicians are today’s classical theorists.

    Watch on YouTube at 6:12

The last train to Monk: an interview

various, 1987–2019

  1. 30:17

    Barry

    Bach, Liszt, Chopin and Beethoven learned to improvise, so there had to be a system to it.

    Watch on YouTube at 30:17

Jazz theory, part 2: drop voicings

New York City

  1. 0:00

    Barry

    Bach, Beethoven, Liszt and the others goofed on us by no longer showing how to improvise.

    Watch on YouTube

Jazz theory, part 2, with score

New York City

  1. 0:11

    Barry

    The same remark in another transcript of the Lincoln Center theory class.

    Watch on YouTube at 0:11

Ep.1 | Everything no one has ever told you about jazz | Barry Harris

n.d.

  1. 0:54

    Barry

    Jazz musicians are trying to learn to improvise as Chopin, Bach, Brahms and Liszt did.

    Watch on YouTube at 0:54

Barry Harris Trio - 2005-07-08, North Sea Jazz Festival, Netherlands

  1. 35:38

    Barry

    If concert halls play Bach, Beethoven and Brahms, he sees no reason he can’t play Bird.

    Watch on YouTube at 35:38

  2. 42:40

    Barry

    If Bach and Beethoven were alive they couldn’t play concert halls; they would be in a corner bar.

    Watch on YouTube at 42:40

Barry Harris Live In Rennes

  1. 40:22

    Barry

    Symphony halls play Beethoven, Bach, Brahms and Chopin, so a jazz musician should play Bud, Bird and Monk.

    Watch on YouTube at 40:22

My Chat With Chris Parks From Things I Learned From Barry Harris

  1. 25:59

    A teacher

    Chris Parks recalls Barry playing a Bach piece to show it used the eight-note scale, not seven.

    Watch on YouTube at 25:59

  2. 51:43

    Interviewer

    The host praises teachers who show a concept at work in Bach’s music and Charlie Parker’s alike.

    Watch on YouTube at 51:43

TILF Barry Harris EP 52 A Very Important Arpeggio

  1. 11:55

    A teacher

    Chris Parks says Barry often argued Bach and Chopin, alive today, would be improvising at a corner bar.

    Watch on YouTube at 11:55

Jazz GUITAR Reflections on BARRY HARRIS

  1. 18:03

    A student

    A former student says Barry felt jazz concerts should offer Monk and Bud, as classical ones offer Bach.

    Watch on YouTube at 18:03

Detroit Jazz: Ancient to the Future

  1. 42:51

    Someone else

    A Detroit musician recalls jazz being dismissed as never as great as Beethoven, Bach or Brahms.

    Watch on YouTube at 42:51

Ep. 20 | Charles McPherson: Meeting Charlie Parker, Studying with Barry Harris, and the Art of Bebop

  1. 17:58

    Someone else

    Charles McPherson says modes, like Gregorian chant, are older than Bach; his generation knew them but didn’t focus on them.

    Watch on YouTube at 17:58

  2. 49:53

    Someone else

    McPherson says Bach, Stravinsky or Wagner, moving to a new key, land on its third or fifth.

    Watch on YouTube at 49:53

  3. 1:07:24

    Someone else

    Asked about opera and classical taste, McPherson says he loves Bach.

    Watch on YouTube at 1:07:24

In the interviews and notes

Recordings that name them

Barry’s performances and records in the archive that credit or name them.

Method ideas nearby

Ideas of the method taught in the classes where they come up, with how many mentions fall in each.

  1. 2.3The three diminished seventh chords (‘the children’)7
  2. 1.4Triplets and thinking in six6
  3. 2.2The two whole-tone scales (‘man and woman’)6
  4. 1.1Rhythm comes first4
  5. 15.3Music is like math; finding your own voice; the teacher’s job4
  6. 3.3Every chord takes the scale it comes from4
  7. 6.9Triplets in lines (eighth- and sixteenth-note)4
  8. 8.4Playing with the family4