Barry HarrisThe method
1.3

Feel the ‘ands’

Barry wanted the ‘ands’, the off-beats, felt as surely as the beats. A player should be able to start a phrase on any ‘and’ without the drummer’s help, and he drilled it by sliding one phrase through the bar.

In plain words

Barry heard music as one-and-two-and-three-and-four, not just one, two, three, four. Players, he found, tend to fumble the ‘and’ of one and the ‘and’ of two, and drummers the ‘and’ of three; he wanted a continuous motion felt the whole time. He asked drummers to stop hammering on one, since syncopation is where the music lives, and said most pianists comp on one and cannot comp on the ‘and’ of four.

Interview: Bud Powell and teaching singers0:00Believe: a talk to musicians30:0530:3731:11

The ‘ands’ are as important as the beats, he told one class, and you must feel them so you can start a phrase anywhere. A phrase that starts on the tonic right on beat one sounds bad to him; leave off the first two notes so it starts on the second beat and it sounds hipper. He told a class to sing a short phrase off the beat, saying the beat is close to hell and the ‘and’ close to heaven.

Dropping notes to feel every beat5:01Practising the blues with the horns, part 123:1423:48The 1998 workshop, part 345:0245:35

The ‘and’ of four has a special job. Barry called it a spot that instigates things: many bass players treat it as just a pickup, yet plenty of songs start their phrases there, and it sounds better than the beat. A phrase on the ‘and’ of one also sits better coming off the ‘and’ of four than straight after beat one, so before the horns came in on the ‘and’ of one he asked for the ‘and’ of four to be hit first, a little louder.

Student performances and coaching11:2211:57Dropping notes to feel every beat5:34Feeling the ‘and’20:14

The test is feeling the ‘ands’ with nobody marking them. With the drummer no longer helping, a band’s entries on the ‘ands’ turned shaky; Barry told them to feel the spaces as though the drums were still keeping time, then ran the phrase again with the drums deliberately silent. Most of us, he said, don’t feel the ‘ands’ well unless someone tells us where they are.

Feeling the ‘and’27:2427:5830:12

How he said to practise it

  • Pick a phrase and repeat it, dropping one more note from the front each time so its start moves from beat one to the ‘and’ of one, then beat two, the ‘and’ of two and on through the bar; then put the notes back one by one. Take it slowly with someone playing along, sing it as well, and keep strict time throughout.

    Dropping notes to feel every beat0:000:353:05Feeling the ‘and’39:29

  • Work towards doing that drill perfectly without counting. Barry called it a phrase to make a habit of practising, one a horn player should simply be able to play.

    Feeling the ‘and’40:3941:11

  • Group drill: after a bar of count-off, everyone plays a single hit on the ‘and’ of one in the next bar, on the ‘and’ of two in the bar after, then on the ‘and’ of three, then on the ‘and’ of four. Aim for one clean hit each time, with no stray echoes.

    Feeling the ‘and’0:000:38

  • Sing a two-word phrase such as ‘don’t go’ after a count of four, placing it off the beat rather than on it.

    The 1998 workshop, part 344:2645:02

  • With singers in Tokyo, Barry looped an eight-bar I-VI-II-V progression and had them land the chord changes on the ‘ands’, so that the VI arrives on the ‘and’ of one.

    Vocal workshop: swing it yourself7:02

In Barry’s words

Each one plays from the moment he says it. Every other moment he teaches it is listed below.

You’re supposed to know about ands, so that when you play... that’s where the music is, man... Music is one and two and three and four.

Believe: a talk to musicians, Almería, 2014. Almería talk, answering a drummer who asked what Barry expects from drums. 30:37 Watch on YouTube at 30:37

It’s because the ands are just as important as the beats. So you’ve got to fill the ands so you can start on ands sometimes.

Dropping notes to feel every beat, The Hague, 1989–98. Explaining why he makes players start one phrase on every beat and ‘and’. 5:06 Watch on YouTube at 5:06

[The and of the four] is like a nice instigate. It instigates upon stuff.

Student performances and coaching, New York City, 2004. Advice to bass players and drummers at the Artists House master class. 11:22 Watch on YouTube at 11:22

Now you got to fill these spaces as if the time is being played by the drummer.

Feeling the ‘and’, The Hague, 1989–98. With the drummer no longer helping, the band’s off-beat entries had gone shaky. 27:24 Watch on YouTube at 27:24

Where this comes from

Everything above is drawn from these. Open any one to check it.

Every moment he teaches it12 moments in 8 recordings

Each time opens the transcript there; the video plays when you are online.

Feeling the ‘and’

The Hague, 1989–98 — 44 min On YouTube

  1. 0:00

    Group drill: hit only the ‘and’ of one, then two, three and four in successive bars.

    Watch on YouTube

  2. 27:24

    Drummer drops out; feel the gaps as if time were played; we don’t feel ‘ands’ unaided.

    Watch on YouTube at 27:24

  3. 20:14

    Hit the ‘and’ of four, louder, before a horn phrase on the ‘and’ of one.

    Watch on YouTube at 20:14

  4. 0:38

    Wants a class where people really learn the ‘ands’, as salsa players do.

    Watch on YouTube at 0:38

Dropping notes to feel every beat

The Hague, 1989–98 — 7 min On YouTube

  1. 0:35

    Takes notes off a phrase one at a time so players learn to start anywhere.

    Watch on YouTube at 0:35

  2. 5:34

    The ‘and’ of one sits better behind the ‘and’ of four; drummers mostly hit on one.

    Watch on YouTube at 5:34

Believe: a talk to musicians

Almería, 2014 — 60 min On YouTube

  1. 30:05

    Drummers should stop hitting on one; syncopation and the ‘ands’ are where the music is.

    Watch on YouTube at 30:05

Interview: Bud Powell and teaching singers

various, 1987–2019 — 20 min On YouTube

  1. 0:00

    Players fumble the ‘ands’ of one and two, drummers the ‘and’ of three; feel a continuous motion.

    Watch on YouTube

Student performances and coaching

New York City, 2004 — 45 min On YouTube

  1. 10:48

    Bass and drums should come out on the ‘and’; the ‘and’ of four instigates.

    Watch on YouTube at 10:48

Practising the blues with the horns, part 1

The Hague, 1989–98 — 26 min On YouTube

  1. 23:14

    A phrase from the tonic on beat one sounds bad; start it on beat two.

    Watch on YouTube at 23:14

The 1998 workshop, part 3

The Hague, 1989–98 — 76 min On YouTube

  1. 44:26

    Class sings ‘don’t go’ off the beat: the beat near hell, the ‘and’ near heaven.

    Watch on YouTube at 44:26

Vocal workshop: swing it yourself

Tokyo — 13 min On YouTube

  1. 7:02

    Singers practise hitting a I-VI-II-V chain on the ‘ands’.

    Watch on YouTube at 7:02

From the lessons2 lessons, 11 points

Notes taken from Barry’s classes, each tied to the moment it comes from.

Feel the ‘ands’

  1. Idea

    Barry noticed that players generally mess up the ‘and’ of beat one and the ‘and’ of beat two, and drummers the ‘and’ of three or the third beat itself. What he wanted was for players to feel a continuous action going on, which is what goes on all the time.

    Interview: Bird, Hawkins, Monk and New York0:00Interview: Bud Powell and teaching singers0:00

  2. Idea

    What Barry wanted from drummers was that they stop hammering on beat one. Syncopation is where the music is, so drummers should know the ‘ands’, the off-beats between the beats. Pianists are the same: most comp on the beat because they count only one, two, three, four, when the music should be felt as one-and-two-and-three-and-four-and, with the action on the ‘ands’.

    Believe: a talk to musicians30:0530:3731:11

  3. Exercise

    Barry used the words ‘don’t go’ as a sung phrase, asking the class to picture someone they love about to leave town. He insisted it must not start on the beat: the beat, he said, is close to hell and the ‘and’ is close to heaven. Count one, two, three, four, then come in with the phrase off the beat.

    The 1998 workshop, part 344:2645:0245:3555:17

  4. Exercise

    In a blues class with the horns, Barry said a phrase that starts on the tonic right on the first beat sounds bad. If you leave off the first two notes so the same phrase starts on the second beat, he said, it sounds hipper, and he had them try it.

    Practising the blues with the horns, part 122:1523:14

  5. Idea

    Bassists and drummers should learn to play on the off-beats more than on the beat; for example, a drummer coming back in should come out on the ‘and’ of four rather than on one. The ‘and’ of four is a strong spot that sets things in motion; many bass players use it only as a pickup, but many songs start their phrases there. Barry had the band compare a phrase begun on the beat with the same phrase begun on the ‘and’ of four, and the off-beat version sounded better.

    Student performances and coaching10:3011:0611:4512:17

  6. Exercise

    With a singer, Barry ran an eight-bar chain of I-VI-II-V and had them practise hitting the changes on the ‘ands’, so that the VI chord lands on the ‘and’ of one rather than squarely on a beat. Don’t make it so heavy on the downbeats.

    Vocal workshop: swing it yourself7:027:37

Drills for every beat and every ‘and’

  1. Exercise

    Take a phrase and play it over and over, each time leaving one more note off the front (and later adding them back), so the same phrase starts on beat one, then the ‘and’ of one, beat two, the ‘and’ of two, beat three, and so on. Go slowly, have someone play along on a second piano, sing it as well, and keep it in time all the way through. The aim is to feel every beat and every ‘and’ so you can start a phrase anywhere, because the ‘ands’ are just as important as the beats.

    Dropping notes to feel every beat0:000:353:055:01

  2. Exercise

    Barry ran the same drill with a band on a C7 phrase: leave off the first note, then the first two, and so on, so the start moves through the bar (adding notes moves it back). He called it a phrase worth practising as a habit, done without counting and done perfectly, the way a horn player should be able to, and slowly enough that the singers could do it too.

    Feeling the ‘and’39:2941:1141:4642:21

  3. Exercise

    A group drill: count off, then in the next bar everyone hits only the ‘and’ of one; in the bar after that only the ‘and’ of two; then only the ‘and’ of three; then only the ‘and’ of four. When a class tried it, Barry heard stray echoes on the ‘and’ of four, people playing where they shouldn’t. Aim for one clean hit exactly on the off-beat and nothing else.

    Feeling the ‘and’0:00

  4. Idea

    A phrase starting on the ‘and’ of one wants the ‘and’ of four hit just before it, because the ‘and’ of four leads into it; the ‘and’ of one sits better coming off the four than straight behind beat one. So if the horns will enter on the ‘and’ of one, the accompaniment (the drummer, for example) should hit the ‘and’ of four first, and Barry had the band play that set-up louder to make it clear. He complained that drummers don’t practise rhythm enough and mostly hit on one. Starting on beat two feels different again, and all of it needs practice.

    Dropping notes to feel every beat5:015:346:12Feeling the ‘and’20:14

  5. Exercise

    When a band played phrases with gaps between them, the time got shaky, especially on entries on the ‘and’ of one, two or three. Barry told them to feel the spaces as if the drummer were still playing time, then had the drummer drop out so the horns had to keep the pulse and place the off-beat entries themselves. Most players feel the ‘ands’ only when someone tells them where they are; the goal is to feel them unaided.

    Feeling the ‘and’27:2429:38

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