Barry HarrisThe method
8.3

Four dominants from every diminished chordThe dominant family

Lower any one note of a diminished seventh chord a half step and you get a dominant seventh rooted on that note. The four dominants from one diminished chord, a minor third apart, are a family, ‘brothers and sisters’, and can replace each other.

In plain words

Take a diminished seventh chord and lower any one of its notes a half step, leaving the other three alone: you get a dominant seventh whose root is the note you lowered. From C diminished, lowering C gives B7, E♭ gives D7, F♯ gives F7 and A gives A♭7. Barry credited the rule to Schoenberg, but said he had learned it years earlier from other players and from records, at a time when he couldn’t have afforded Schoenberg’s book.

Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished8:36Student performances and coaching32:07Believe: a talk to musicians20:5121:26

The four roots lie a minor third apart and form another diminished chord. Barry called the four dominants brothers and sisters, a family that grew up together, and asked who you play with first: your brother and your sister. So the first relatives of any dominant are the other three in its family; C7’s are E♭7, F♯7 and A7.

Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished8:369:10Student performances and coaching33:5134:24

The family runs through keys as well as chords. Barry called the minor third the most important interval of all: C, E♭, F♯ and A are one family, and so are their dominants. There are only three diminished seventh chords, each giving four dominants, so three families cover all twelve.

Jazz theory, part 1: key families a minor third apart4:58The minor-third family0:00Student performances and coaching29:5332:07Howard Rees, Evolutionary Voicings, Part I: Barry Harris Keeps Things Movin’ ¶11

This was Barry’s answer to the ‘half step, whole step’ account of the diminished: what matters is that four dominants come out of every diminished chord, and that their roots plus the chord make the diminished scale. It also explains why relatives sound right together: naming D7’s relatives (F7, A♭7, B7), he had a pianist add A♭ and B triads and said it works because it is family.

Believe: a talk to musicians20:15Student performances and coaching34:24The last train to Monk: an interview30:48Introducing the sixth diminished scale13:41

Step by step

  1. Play a diminished seventh chord and lower one note a half step, keeping the other three. The lowered note is the root of a dominant seventh.

    C°, lower C → B7
    𝄞♯♯
    1. B
    2. D♯
    3. F♯
    4. A
    C°, lower E♭ → D7
    𝄞♯
    1. D
    2. F♯
    3. A
    4. C
    C°, lower F♯ → F7
    𝄞♭
    1. F
    2. A
    3. C
    4. E♭
    C°, lower A → A♭7
    𝄞♭♭♭
    1. A♭
    2. C
    3. E♭
    4. G♭

    Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished8:36Student performances and coaching32:4133:51

  2. The four roots (here B, D, F, A♭) are a minor third apart and make another diminished chord. Those four dominants are one family.

    Student performances and coaching34:24Jazz theory, part 5: the sixth diminished scale3:13Jazz School Online (Howard Rees), Glossary of Terms ¶51

  3. Do the same with the other two diminished chords. The three families: C° gives B7, D7, F7, A♭7; C♯° (= B♭°) gives C7, E♭7, F♯7, A7; D° gives D♭7, E7, G7, B♭7.

    Student performances and coaching32:0734:24Howard Rees, Evolutionary Voicings, Part I: Barry Harris Keeps Things Movin’ ¶11Howard Rees, Chord Explorations ¶37

  4. Treat the four as relatives that can replace or join each other over any one of them.

    Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished9:10Introducing the sixth diminished scale13:41Howard Rees, Evolutionary Voicings, Part I: Barry Harris Keeps Things Movin’ ¶13

How he said to practise it

  • At the instrument, play the diminished chord, flat one note, name the dominant, then go back to the diminished and flat the next note, until you have all four dominants that come from it.

    Student performances and coaching32:4133:14Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished8:36

  • Practise the four dominants of a family together, because they belong together; running them into each other is the next step.

    Student performances and coaching33:5134:24

In Barry’s words

Each one plays from the moment he says it. Every other moment he teaches it is listed below.

If you lower one note at a time, you’ll end up with four dominant[s].

Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished, New York City. Passing on Schoenberg’s rule, with a pianist lowering each note of C diminished 8:36 Watch on YouTube at 8:36

Who do you play with first? Your brother and your sister... You play with your family first.

Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished, New York City. On the four dominants that come from one diminished chord 9:10 Watch on YouTube at 9:10

All of you should be practicing those four dominants. They’re brother and sister, they grew up together.

Student performances and coaching, New York City, 2004. Master class with student players, after deriving the dominants from a diminished chord 33:51 Watch on YouTube at 33:51

What does it give us? It gives us families.

The last train to Monk: an interview, various, 1987–2019. In an interview, on what the diminished scale really is 30:48 Watch on YouTube at 30:48

Where this comes from

Everything above is drawn from these. Open any one to check it.

Every moment he teaches it12 moments in 8 recordings

Each time opens the transcript there; the video plays when you are online.

Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished

New York City — 12 min On YouTube

  1. 8:36

    Lowers each note of C diminished in turn: B7, D7, F7, A♭7 (Schoenberg’s rule).

    Watch on YouTube at 8:36

  2. 9:10

    The four dominants are brother and sister; play with your family first.

    Watch on YouTube at 9:10

Student performances and coaching

New York City, 2004 — 45 min On YouTube

  1. 32:07

    A student finds the B, D, F and A♭ dominants from C diminished.

    Watch on YouTube at 32:07

  2. 33:51

    Flat one tone at a time to get four dominants; practise them together, they grew up together.

    Watch on YouTube at 33:51

  3. 34:24

    B♭ diminished gives A7, C7, E♭7 and F♯7; their roots form a diminished, hence the diminished scale.

    Watch on YouTube at 34:24

  4. 29:53

    The creation story: two whole-tone scales give birth to three diminished chords.

    Watch on YouTube at 29:53

Believe: a talk to musicians

Almería, 2014 — 60 min On YouTube

  1. 20:15

    Almería talk: four dominants from every diminished; he learned it on the street before he knew Schoenberg said it.

    Watch on YouTube at 20:15

Jazz theory, part 1: key families a minor third apart

New York City — 12 min On YouTube

  1. 4:58

    The minor third is the most important interval; C, E♭, F♯ and A are brothers and sisters.

    Watch on YouTube at 4:58

The minor-third family

Rome, 2010–19 — 1 min On YouTube

  1. 0:00

    Rome 2016: the family is minor thirds; C, E♭, F♯ and A are one family.

    Watch on YouTube

Introducing the sixth diminished scale

The Hague, 1989–98 — 27 min On YouTube

  1. 13:41

    Names D7’s relatives F7, A♭7, B7; their triads over the chord sound right because family.

    Watch on YouTube at 13:41

Jazz theory, part 4: borrowing diminished notes

New York City — 8 min On YouTube

  1. 3:20

    Schoenberg said lower the note; Barry asks why not raise it too (minor sixths).

    Watch on YouTube at 3:20

The last train to Monk: an interview

various, 1987–2019 — 34 min On YouTube

  1. 30:48

    The diminished scale gives us families, something he says teachers do not know.

    Watch on YouTube at 30:48

From the lessons2 lessons, 8 points

Notes taken from Barry’s classes, each tied to the moment it comes from.

Four dominants from every diminished chord

  1. Exercise

    Play a diminished seventh chord and lower any one note by a half step, leaving the other three alone. The result is a dominant seventh whose root is the note you lowered. From C diminished: lower C to get B7, E-flat to get D7, F-sharp to get F7, and A to get A-flat 7. From B-flat diminished you get A7, C7, E-flat 7 and F-sharp 7 (the captions say F7 here, but lowering the G of B-flat diminished gives F-sharp 7, and F7 already belongs to the C diminished family). Barry credited the idea to Schoenberg.

    Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished8:36Student performances and coaching33:2934:02A word to guitar players1:08

  2. Idea

    Barry called these four dominants brothers and sisters, one family, and asked who you play with first: your brother and your sister. So the four dominants of a diminished chord are the first ones to use together. He said the average horn or guitar player thinks only in half steps and whole steps without knowing that four dominants come from every diminished chord, and that you really should know what the diminished is. He also called the guitar the best instrument, one we should learn from.

    Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished9:10A word to guitar players0:34Believe: a talk to musicians19:41Jazz theory, part 3, with score9:16

  3. Idea

    Barry rejected the usual definition of the diminished scale as an alternating half-step/whole-step pattern: if that’s all you know, he said, you miss most of the music, because so much of it comes from the diminished. For him the scale is the diminished chord plus the four roots of its dominants, and those four roots form a second diminished chord, so the scale is two diminished chords put together. Start on the root of one of the dominants and you get the half-step/whole-step pattern; start on a note of the diminished chord and you get whole-step/half-step.

    Believe: a talk to musicians5:10Jazz theory, part 5: the sixth diminished scale3:133:50Student performances and coaching34:42

  4. Exercise

    Barry had a student hold a C7 with just two notes and place major triads from its family above it: an A triad, a C triad, an E-flat triad. The chord has to sound pretty. With the E-flat triad on top, add the E natural next to the E-flat; without it the sound reads as a minor 7th rather than a dominant.

    Jazz theory, part 3: four dominants from one diminished9:109:4410:15

One diminished chord, many chords

  1. Exercise

    Play a diminished seventh chord and lower one note at a time by a half step: each time you get a dominant seventh chord. Barry credits Schoenberg with stating the rule: lower the C of C diminished (C, E-flat, F-sharp, A) to B and you have B7. He called the guitar the best instrument for really learning the diminished, and said guitar players especially are supposed to do this.

    Believe: a talk to musicians20:1520:51Jazz theory, part 4: borrowing diminished notes3:20Jazz theory, part 5: the sixth diminished scale0:36

  2. Idea

    Barry learned the lower-one-note trick years ago, from other players and from listening to records where he came from, long before he found out that Schoenberg had written it down. He could not have afforded Schoenberg’s book back then.

    Believe: a talk to musicians20:51

  3. Idea

    Barry asked why Schoenberg only said to lower the note. Raise it instead: raising the C of C diminished gives C-sharp, E-flat, F-sharp, A, a minor sixth chord on F-sharp. Raising any one note of a diminished chord gives a minor sixth chord, which you might also call a half-diminished.

    Jazz theory, part 4: borrowing diminished notes3:206:18Jazz theory, part 5: the sixth diminished scale0:36

  4. Exercise

    Now move two notes at once. Lowering or raising two neighbouring notes gives a major sixth chord: on C, E-flat, F-sharp, A, lowering C and E-flat gives B, D, F-sharp, A (D6), and raising them gives C-sharp, E, F-sharp, A (A6). Moving two notes that are not neighbours gives a seventh chord with a flat five. So one diminished chord leads to dominant sevenths, minor sixths, major sixths and seventh-flat-five chords. Then learn the progressions these make.

    Jazz theory, part 5: the sixth diminished scale0:361:15Eyes of the Masters: the first progression1:201:54

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